i don't know if it was the economy or what it was that made this doctor act like this, but it was crucial. it was crucial and i didn't like it and i decided that i would take notes and then i started hearing about abby johnson and protesters at the gate and they gave me a flyer and i wrapped it up and put it in my pocket, i'm going to need this and it said on that flyer, if you were a part of this you could also get prosecuted so i started saying i don't want to be a part of this either and i started just taking notes and one thing led to another and i ended up out of the industry and contacted miss johnson and she's been wonderful. >> mike: i'm anxious to hear about how she helped you and what was the turning point. i think that's very important and when we come back, we're going to talk about how abby, debra and others were able to walk away from this horrible industry and how they're trying to get others to do the same. we'll be right back. when did you know that grandma was the one? when her sister dumped me. oh dad, you remember my friend alex? yeah. the one that had the work done...